R&R – The Beast of Jean Claude Biver

Welcome to the horology world’s ultimate watchmaking podcast network. On this episode of Rob & the Regulator, Artisian Watch Technician Alex and Ex Richard Mille employee Rob talk about the latest releases from the watch industry. Including the BiveR watches Carillon tourbillon Biver.

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BiveR watches Carillon tourbillon Biver
42 x 13.7 titanium or rose gold case, 50m WR
Prototype worn by JCB himself to be auctioned.
Limited to 16 pieces, likely 1 piece pre-sold to 5 retailers each worldwide,  570,000 USD (950000 gumnuts) in titanium, 625,000 USD (1040000 gumnuts) in 18k 5N gold, and 1,315,000 (2.2m gumnuts) USD fully diamond-set. No price on the two-tone.
 
De Bethune DB Eight Chronograph
42.4 x 9.2 titanium case, 30m WR
Denis Flageollet wanted this to be a very elegant and discrete chronograph, which is why it’s designed to look like a simple small seconds time only watch. Heat blued titanium hands are neat. Post-Watchbox acquisition De Bethune is, as everyone expected, more expensive and cutting corners the previous management wouldn’t have allowed. Thoughts on oscillating pinions?
85000CHF (148000 gumnuts)
 
Ulysse Nardin Freak ONE
44 x 12mm black DLC titanium case, 30m WR
Could almost be considered a reissue of the original Freak. LIVE pictures.
65000CHF (113000 gumnuts)
 
Kudoke 3
39 x 10.3mm stainless steel case, 50m WR
Those Germans really know how to make a sexy name.
9350EUR (16000 gumnuts)
 
All the other shit
 
Tudor Black Bay 54
37 x 11.24mm stainless steel case, 200m WR
Ròbe can sit in his armchair for this one, we need the opinion of @thetudorguy!! If the BB58 blue is bland, what is this with even fewer markers, less color and smaller crown?
On rubber strap 3450CHF (6000 gumnuts), bracelet 3650CHF (6300 gumnuts)
 
Tudor Black Bay 41 MASTER CHRONOMETER
41 x
The black bay two-liner is dead, long live the black bay two-liner. Is Ròbés ponzi scheme going to fall apart now? T-fit clasp with 8mm of adjustment, more accurate movement, thinner both physically and visually. Why would anyone buy the old one?
4150CHF (7000 gumnuts) on not-jubilee and 4250CHF (7250 gumnuts) on not-oyster
 
Rolex 1908
39 x 9.5mm yellow or white gold case, 50m WR
Seems like a new direction for Rolex, squeezing the grey market prices from the price peak a year or two ago but also more refinement – capped hands, open caseback and generally far more balanced design than the Cellini it replaces. While the price is high, it’s about 13% more expensive than a Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Ultra Thin – similarly decorated but with a less advanced movement.
22000USD in yellow gold and 23300 in white gold.
 
Rolex Emoji embarassment
36 x 12mm yellow, white or Everose® case, 100m WR.
Enamel jigsaw pieces, Richards patented colorblindness test gemset dial. Not the greatest quality printing on those day and date wheels.
Rolex Yacht-Master 42
42mm titanium case, 200m WR
ALL brushed.
13400CHF (24000 gumnuts)
 
Jaeger-LeCoultre Reverso Tribute Chronograph
49.4 x 29.9 x 11.14mm steel or rose gold case, 30m WR
Retrograde chronograph minute counter to be able to fit a chronograph into a square case.
Boutique exclusive, 21400USD in steel or 37400USD in rose gold
 
Cartier Santos Dumont Skeleton
31 x 8mm steel, yellow or rose gold case, 30m WR.
Everyone loves a ✈️ microrotor.
Steel and rose gold unlimited, yellow gold limited to 150 pieces.
Steel: €27,900 Rose gold: €36,400 Yellow gold: €37,500
 
Cartier Tank Normale
32.6 x 25.7 x 6.85mm yellow gold or platinum case
Upsized to this still small even for Cartier size.
Limited to 600 pieces; 200 examples per strap model and 100 per bracelet model.
Yellow gold on strap: €27,900 (
Yellow gold with bracelet: €41,800 (
Platinum on strap: €31,400 Platinum with bracelet: €48,200
 
 
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